Is the Illuminati Real? If So, Who Is a Part of the Illuminati?

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By kittythedreamer

A Crazy Yet Seemingly Factual Theory

Lately I've been doing a ton of reading on what would seem like a crazy conspiracy theory, The Illuminati theory. I say what would seem like a crazy theory because I have found most of the evidence to be quite compelling. I am not too big on conspiracy theories as I tend to be very skeptical of what anyone tells me via the internet or media in general; however, the theory that the Illuminati controls much of the entertainment industry certainly seems like a very logical theory indeed. Where it gets a bit overboard is when theorists connect the Illuminati with a secret race of Reptilians who plan to take over the Earth. Supposedly there are reptilian aliens or species among us that have interbred with humans and have the ability to shapeshift into full human form. They are thought to be here to deceive us and feed off of our lifeforce and planet in general. While this idea seems totally absurd and for the birds, there are many stories and data to back up the theories...which I would suggest researching to make your own mind up on the matter.

While much of the evidence and signs presented by internet writers seems over-the-top, there is much research and facts on the Illuminati presented by intelligent individuals dating back centuries, since the first documentation of the Illuminati secret society in the eighteenth century. There are two particularly well-versed Hubbers on Hubpages that have done a lot of research and writing on the origins and development of the Illuminati and Reptilian connections. Do a search for the Hubbers Bard of Ely and also Sabreblade. They both have hubs containing compelling evidence about the rise of the Illuminati and Reptilian theories.

If you want my opinion, I'm starting to believe that the Illuminati is real. I'm not quite sure about the Reptilian idea, though. While I believe that aliens exist, I'm not totally sold on the idea that they're living among us and taking on our form in order to take us over. That's going to take some actual proof for me to believe in that one; however, the argument is quite intriguing either way. The Illuminati, in my opinion, is a group of people in powerful positions that have motives enforced by greed and success, and these people don't care how they get it..even it if means lying to the public and controlling aspects of society that they have no right controlling. That's my opinion in a nutshell. So who would be a part of this force? I believe a lot of politicians, leaders, religious leaders, and also celebrities take a part in this. That's not to say that everyone who is famous is a part of this group, but many I would predict are a part. Again, you must look into it for yourself and make your own decision. I don't claim to know all of the truth or hidden secrets.

Britney Getting Pumped With Illuminati Power

Examples of Masonic/Illuminati Symbols on Rocawear Shirts (Produced by Jay-Z)

How about the all-seeing eye in the middle top of the diamond? And the pyramid with lightning bolts above it?
How about the all-seeing eye in the middle top of the diamond? And the pyramid with lightning bolts above it?
Serpent, wrapped around crossed bones, on top of the american flag...wow.
Serpent, wrapped around crossed bones, on top of the american flag...wow.

One of the "Reptilian" Videos on Youtube with over a million hits

Celebrities that I would gather to be Illuminati

Lady Gaga: This one is particularly hard for me to admit, since I am a self-admitted huge fan of Lady Gaga. The more I learn about her and her rise to ultra-stardom, the more I tend to shy away from her music and from her messages. Illuminati symbolism and admittance is everywhere within her music videos, her concerts, and also in her candid tour videos known as "Gagavision". In one of her candid videos, Lady Gaga is heard randomly saying "he's in my belly". In one magazine interview, I believe it was for Rolling Stone, Lady Gaga talks about how she had dreams of having her wrists slit and then honey pouring out of them. Read her story below:

“I have this recurring dream sometimes where there’s a phantom in my home and he takes me into a room, and there’s a blond girl with ropes tiedto all four of her limbs. And she’s got my shoes on from the Grammys. Go figure—pyscho. And the ropes are pulling her apart.”

But it gets even stranger. “I never see her get pulled apart, but I just watch her whimper, and then the phantom says to me, ‘If you want me to stop hurting her and if you want your family to be OK, you will cut your wrist.’ And I think that he has his own, like, crazy wrist-cutting device. And he has this honey in, like, Tupperware, and it looks like sweet-and-sour sauce with a lot of MSG from New York. Just bizarre. And he wants me to pour the honey into the wound, and then put cream over it and a gauze.”

Gaga was confused by her dream and turned to other sources to find out its meaning. “So I looked up the dream, and I couldn’t find anything about it anywhere. And my mother goes, ‘Isn’t that an illuminati ritual?’ And I was like, ‘Oh, my God!’”

She even consulted her good friend and mentor Deepak Chopra about past dreams. “The devil’s trying to take me, Deepak. I’m a good girl!” she told the spiritual leader, who eased her fears.

But she admits her nightmares inspire her eccentric stage shows. “I do have morbid dreams. But I put them in the show. A lot of the work I do is an exorcism for the fans but also for myself.”

I have to admit that while I was at Lady Gaga's concert, there were times where I felt she was lying to the audience...pumping them up with positivity and then slipping in lines such as "I don't want your money Tampa, I want your soul". I sometimes felt as if she wasn't even human...and I even told my husband this very thing that same night after leaving her concert. As much as I enjoyed her talent and performance, there were parts that I felt quite uncomfortable with. Something inside of me said that something wasn't right. Now we see her wearing prosthetics in her videos and performances that make her seem alien-like...or possibly even reptilian. And now she sings songs that are deceivingly uplifting and positive, mixed with songs containing thick anti-spiritual symbolism and societal-negativity.

Beyonce & Jay-Z: What I found particularly intriguing with this link is the fact that Jay-Z owns the clothing brand Rocawear, and guess what symbols seem to appear all over his t-shirts and merchandise? You guessed it, Masonic or possible Illuminati symbols. I actually noticed this when my brother was in town and he was wearing a white Rocawear t-shirt...there was a pyramid with the all-seeing eye plastered to the front of the t-shirt and something about a "New World Order" in small print on the back. Let's not forget that Beyonce and Lady Gaga did a video/song together known as Telephone, an innocent dumb video as it would seem but the connection or business partnership between Lady Gaga and Beyonce is there, nonetheless.

Kanye West: This one is sort of obvious to me.

Rihanna: Who discovered Rihanna? Jay-Z did, of course! So it only seems fitting that Rihanna would be a part of the Illuminati, too. As gorgeous as Rihanna's voice is, doesn't anyone else feel as if she's a robot? Like she's just singing on the stage, with a voice so beautiful coming out of an empty, hollow shell?

Lil Wayne: He's been seen throwing around Illuminati symbolism in videos and during his performances by many different people. Some people even believe he tries to "invoke a demon" at one of the awards shows. Overall, he's wrapped up in an evil Illuminati system.

Snoop Dogg: talks about the Illuminati in different songs, though most of them are difficult to hear and probably just subliminal messages.

Britney Spears: Snapshots of Britney's first video for "Hit Me Baby One More Time" with a crazy lizard-like tongue jutting out from Britney's mouth. Watch her video "Hold it Against Me" and you might just find it a bit disturbing, I know I did. She's wearing a white wedding dress in the video, with videos of her as a young girl playing in the background and all around her, while there are IV's pumping into her wrists/fingers. Towards the end they break and multi-colored fluid sprays her dress (some believe this symbolizes her sacrifice of life to the Illuminati for their use of her in the industry). Then she battles another side of herself, while the sex-kitten in black leather triumphs over the innocent wedding-dress-version of Britney, in the very end.

Katy Perry: Obvious with the "E.T." song and video. Connections with Kanye West as he does a guest performance on the song talking about "alien sex", etc. There are also videos on youtube trying to prove evidence of Katy Perry's shifting abilities as a reptilian. Again, sort of nuts but worth looking into and super entertaining, nonetheless!


In Conclusion on the Illuminati

Do I believe the Illuminati exist? I'm starting to; however, I'm not fully sold on the Reptilian idea. Most of the videos on youtube are definitely faked and are used as a scare tactic for some jerk who wants to get famous himself. The one video I've posted here of the newscaster is pretty creepy though but definitely able to be faked. What are you thoughts on it?

If the Illuminati does exist, probably a lot of our leaders and famous individuals are a part of it. I think that it just means that they've been overcome by greed and fame. Maybe they'll go to great lengths to keep their money and their happiness but they deny everyone else their happiness and success. If you believe in God and the Devil, you might be inclined to think that many of these people (if not all) have sold their souls in order to acquire such fame and fortune and power. My point is to not dwell on conspiracy theories such as these...if they exist, then they exist. There's nothing we can do about it except to be happy and live a joyful and truthful life, as this is the best weapon against negativity and evil powers.

I'm open to hearing everyone's comments on these topics, both the Illuminati and the Reptilian theories.

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prasetio30 Level 8 Commenter 9 months ago

Very entertaining hub. You have great idea from those celebrities. They always inspire us as public figure. Thanks for share with us. Well done, my friend. You got my vote again. Cheers...

Prasetio

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Jonathan Janco 9 months ago

You definitely left me wanting more on that, kitty, but there's so many different theories out there that use the term Illuminati as an all-purpose scare word like the boogey man. 'The Way of the Enlightened Ones' is what it roughly translates to in Latin (Way meaning doctrine, I would assume). There are many groups attributed to being secret puppets of the Illuminati as well as many groups that have used the term as a self-application throughout history. Bavarian Illuminati is the one most commonly referred to, as it was popularized by Myron Fagan in the 60's. As for the reptilians, I think there is more to that than many would care to admit. The Old Testament, the Hindu Vedas and the old, old myths of Sumerian and Babylonian origin are full of reptilian and serpentine imagery. The Seraphim in the OT are the most well known, commonly described as angels with serpent scales and fiery tongues. While I dont take the Bible or these other religious texts literally, I do believe there must be some reason for its repeated imagery. I do think David Icke's theories are a bit farfetched, but I cant help but feel the idea of us humans being ruled by scaly, cold-blooded, fork-tongued predators does in fact work on a symbolic level.

Well, anyway, thanks for sharing another fine hub.

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kittythedreamer Hub Author 9 months ago

prasetio - Thanks so much, you are very right my friend!

Jonathan - Wow, very good points you've brought up. And yes, you are right. The imagery of the reptile and serpents is very much repeated throughout history and cultural records all over the world. The serpent of the Bible is Satan and there have been many cults of ancient times worshiping the image of a serpent and other reptiles. David Icke's theories are a bit far-fetched but some of it does seem to fit in a weird, obvious way, doesn't it? Thanks for reading and commenting on this illuminati reptilian hub. :)

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Hubdaddy64 9 months ago

Hey Kitty I have read much on this myself with the masons and all it get pretty deep. If you ever get a chance take time to watch Conspiracy Theories with Jesse Ventura theres some very intresting and eyeopeners in those episodes. One thats quite shocking is the idea of our political leaders preparing for the end of the world behind the nations back as in building underground cities. The episode about Denver Airport is insane the murals and weird masonery and iluminati style sculptures. Great hub for real!!!!

Binaya.Ghimire 9 months ago

I had not heard about Illuminati before reading Angels and Demons. I must confess, how little I know on Western concepts and mythologies. Then I researched a little and knew about few things. What I liked about this hub is not scholastic discussion on Illuminati but rather pondering the idea and the ramifications on everyday life.

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DonDWest Level 1 Commenter 9 months ago

Secret societies have always existed for a long time and have been well documented all throughout history. The idea that a secret society of the most powerful men could well be in complete dominion of today's world isn't that far fetched at all. If it happened before, it can happen again. Whether it's a reincarnation of the Illuminati is a whole other matter.

As for the reptilian theories, I'm afraid David Icke will be dissapointed. There's no secret aliens living amongst us. We're all "reptilian" in nature. We all have small traces of reptilian features. That's because when science catches up we'll discover we evolved from reptiles and not apes. Think about it? It explains why much of ancient man is surrounded by semi-reptile/semi-human symbology, and why most of our ancient civilizations were actually built underground, not above ground.

We have made some rather big archeological breakthroughs the past 10 years. It seems that man has existed much longer than we originally thought. Not only have we lived much longer than originally though, but we were also fairly technologically advanced.

In fact, the technology levels discovered in some of these dug up ancient civilizations are of the equivalent technological advancement of today, weaker in some areas and even superior in others. It's an exciting time to be an archeologist today.

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PETER LUMETTA Level 6 Commenter 9 months ago

It would make a good movie. I think you're right in that live and let live. There are no reptiles except in the movies. Thanks for a fun read,

Peter

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kittythedreamer Hub Author 9 months ago

Hey, HubDaddy! I'll definitely have to look into that, I'm interested in watching it for sure. About the underground cities, I've heard that an underground city was found under LA, but that people believed the "reptilians" had built it in order to help in their escape any catastrophe on earth. Yes, the reptilian theory is weird but the Illuminati seems to be very much a real thing in my opinion, though we all have to make up our own minds. Thanks for sharing your insight!

Binaya - Thank you. I didn't want to go into the facts and details of why I believe the Illuminati exists, I really just wanted to identify some everyday symbols and people that we see everyday that could very well be a part of a larger scheme/plan. I'm sure where you live the idea of the "Illuminati" doesn't really exist...which is a good thing!

DonDWest - Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this matter. Yes, you're right about secret societies. What I find funny is that most people don't want to admit that there are secret societies and always have been. I guess people are in denial, as it is easier to believe that the government and leaders are not against you in any way but for you 100%. But we all must remember, in the end, it's every man for himself and his own family. I think people forget that sometimes. As for David Icke and the Reptilians, it is a very intriguing story to me...though a bit absurd in some ways. The youtube videos on the Reptilian Shapeshifters are entertaining, some more real looking than most. But interesting nonetheless. I'll have to look more into the ancient civilizations and their technological advances.

Peter - I agree, though I believe both concepts have been done to a certain degree. The idea of the Illuminati has been covered in the Angels and Demons and The Da Vinci Code movies (but not displaying them as evil). And the idea of a reptilian take-over has been covered in a show called "V" from the 80's, I believe. LOL. Thanks for reading, though! :)

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wolfmonk 9 months ago

very nicely written. you are definitely on the right road.

question everything, on both sides. Keep on researching and you will find your answers and more questions also.

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kittythedreamer Hub Author 9 months ago

wolfmonk - Thanks so much. I am learning slowly but surely. There's so much in this world that is mysterious and crazy at the same time! Thanks for reading and commenting.

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Cogerson Level 8 Commenter 9 months ago

Interesting hub, until I read the book Angels and Demons, I was not even aware of the Illuminati....since that book, it seems I see it mentioned everywhere...thanks for some great information.

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Paradise7 Level 7 Commenter 9 months ago

I was aware of the Illuminati before I read Dan Brown's books. The origin of the Illuminati was to protect scientific knowledge from the depradations of the Catholic Church, who denied heliocentrism for a couple of centuries, for instance. (Heliocentrism is the concept that the earth goes around the sun, instead of the earth being the center of the solar system.) The Catholic Church had demonized science since before the time of Gallileo. This group of wealthy people, artists and scientists were dedicated to protecting scientific knowledge.

Science and religion have come closer together, in some interpretations, in recent decades. The Catholic Church has loosened up on various stances against science.

There is a world-wide consortium of wealthy and powerful people who basically run the world and control its resources--it's called the World Trade Organization. It's out in the open; too powerful to take down, and completely responsible for corporate globalization. It laughs up its sleeve at all the conspiracy theorists who are chasing shadows while this organization rapes the world of its resources and enslaves its people.

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kittythedreamer Hub Author 9 months ago

Paradise7 - I fully agree. Wonderfully intelligent points you've made here. Thank you for your insight.

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WickedLittleLiar 9 months ago

Years ago one of my cousin's friends was over at their house and for some reason everyone left me there with him. I was around 10 years old and this guy had to be at least 19 or 20 (don't ask me what everyone was thinking when they did that) and he just called me to him and asked me if I ever heard of the "evil dollar" before. I told him no and started listening as he explained to me about the government and the symbolism on the dollar and this and that. I took everything he was saying with a grain of salt, but the eerieness of that night has always stayed with me. Just when he started explaining more somebody, I can't remember which of my cousins, came and told him he had to go. I never got his name, I never saw him again, I never heard anything about him again. Ever. That was about 18 years ago and I remember asking about him after that night and nobody seemed to know who I was talking about. I find that so unbelievably creepy.

Anyway, I didn't really think about the illuminati until about a little over 2 years ago and it got explained to me in depth by someone else. Now that I understand it, I do believe it. There's too much evidence for me to not believe that it does.

Great hub :-).

btw, you forgot 2 of the biggest ones right now: Madonna and Christina Aguilera.

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kittythedreamer Hub Author 9 months ago

WickedLittleLiar - Whoa, that is pretty creepy. Probably not a smart idea leaving a ten year old girl with a strange man...especially one who talked a lot of illuminati and new world order type crap. I agree with you though, there is too much evidence and symbols all over the place to deny that the Illuminati exist. I simply can't deny it. I don't know that I believe all of the rumors, but a lot of it seems to be repetitive and real. Thanks for reading and voting. And you're right, Madonna is definitely one..and I've also heard that Christina Aguilera is a part too...which makes sense since she was once a Disney child like Britney.

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WickedLittleLiar 9 months ago

I've also heard there was a kind of ritual they did at the MTV awards the year when Madonna and Britney's kiss was televised. A lot of people don't even remember that she kissed Christina Aguilera as well and from what was explained to me it was a right of passage of some sort when she did that, like passing the torch on from Britney to Christina. Right after that is when Britney lost her mind; it's funny, most people don't make that connection at all. They also said if you looked at the stage when they were performing that night there were symbols all over it. I never actually watched it, I only saw clips of it after it aired, and I also never tried to find footage to check out the stage to see what they were talking about, but I know about the kiss and that's enough and creepy as it is.

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kittythedreamer Hub Author 9 months ago

WickedLittleLiar - I did hear something about that being an initiation and I clearly remember Madonna kissing Britney and then Christina, too. I don't think I remember any symbols being around; however, I wasn't paying attention to things like that back then. I'm sure they were all over the place. It's really sad that these people feel they need to be a part of this group in order to gain more fame or money...I'm glad I'm not in the entertainment industry! Thanks!

Lauren 5 months ago

If you look on youtube there is an.interview of nicki minaj explaining a demon inside her that wont.go.away.she.calls him roman. Look up her song romans revenge, pretty creepy!

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kittythedreamer Hub Author 5 months ago

Lauren - Really? I've never heard that connection before...I'll definitely check that out. Thanks!

candy 4 months ago

shakira lady gaga Draconians are the crown of the dragon, in Barcelona Catalonia is home to the Draconians, they hate the sosiatas draconistarum Illuminat

JORDI 4 months ago

dragon crown barcelona (catoccitani):

enemies of the Illuminati (sosiatas draconistarum Catholic) from 1400 AD, the crown of dragon dates from before the Roman Empire, Egyptian belief worship the black cat (protecting the family and women), the crocodile-dragon, THE PENISQUEDES-o sobek protector of souls journey the afterlife and the mother earth Issis in Montserrat. CAT ATER LUM-(CATALUM) - instead of black cat -

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Worldwidepress 3 months ago

2Pac was killed by them

vicent 3 months ago

King antelles first king of crown prince dragon occitania antmetll of Egyptian origin of the dynasty crellente sobek

OhGoodFreakin'Greif 2 months ago

Get a life. This is just some conspiracy theory mumbo-jumbo. I would figure that you would have more to do with your life than worry about other people's fictitious religious affiliations. You people are grown adults and are looking like idiots.

Bohemian Grove 2 months ago

@OhGoodFreakin'Greif

The Kool-Aid tastes good doesn't it?

aphiwe 2 months ago

illuminati is just evil

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Wyne 3 weeks ago

Who is the leader's

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kittythedreamer Hub Author 3 weeks ago

I have no clue! Sorry!

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OldWitchcraft 4 days ago

Good article. I've been aware of this subject for a long time. I have a collection of some unusual books on the subject that I picked up going to U.F.O. Conferences over the years. There is a big connection between the occult and the U.S. Govt. and has been from the beginning. Any occultist will immediately recognize that most of the founding Fathers were occultists. They were essentially Luciferians, although they were called "deists." They had a more atheistic, scientific view of the world. When we say they saw god in nature, we don't mean the trees and flowers. They were aware of the occult sciences regarding the nature of things both seen and unseen.

I see shapeshifters, although, most do not look really reptilian, more demonic, similar to depictions in old Medieval grimoires. These are physical beings, not spirits or imagination. Before I ever heard of David Icke, I was travelling around the country as an entertainer and occasionally, I would ask other people if they saw them and a surprising number have. These beings don't all look alike. Some look more serpent-like. Some have big black eyes and deep lines in their faces. I saw one that looked a little like the creature from the black lagoon. None of them are green. Their skin is typically similar in color to human skin. Sometimes they shift without realizing they've shifted. If they know you can see them, they get really aggressive. I know this sounds like weird stuff, but there are people all over the place with very similar stories.

How they relate to the Illuminati or if they do, I don't know. There are some misguided people involved in Luciferianism who allow themselves to become vehicles for dark forces, thus perverting the natural order. I write books, I've written about some of these things... they are very difficult to talk about, even with an open-minded audience because they go against the grain of so many things people are told in the media or want to believe. In short - to quote Hagrid, "Not all wizards are good." Some are as bad as you can get.

I think a lot of the literature about the Illuminati is wrong... maybe it's disinfo. Some of it is outright silly. But, I do believe there is an Illuminati and I do believe some occultists are up to very nefarious things... too many people have escaped and told their tales. You'll see strange things in the papers once in a while that make you go Hmmm if you're tuned into it.

Good aricle! Vote up and accolades.

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OldWitchcraft 4 days ago

If you want to know more about the Iluminati (in the broad sense of the term) look at Albert Pike. His work is mostly in the public domain.

They are an early thread of the foundation of Wicca and other forms of initiatory witchcraft. They were using the phrase, "So mote it be!" back, at least, as far as the early 1800s. Pike talks about it in Morals and Dogma.

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kittythedreamer Hub Author 4 days ago

OldWitchcraft - Wow! You know what? I don't think that it's hard to believe...the shapeshifter thing, I mean. I feel like I've seen them too at different points in my life. I can't give you a specific experience, but I would definitely believe you when you say that you've seen them. I bet there's more than we could even realize. Who do you think they are? What are they?

I'll have to check out albert pike. You're not saying that the Illuminati is linked with Wicca, are you? I'm not sure I'm up for that! LOL. Thanks, again!

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OldWitchcraft 4 days ago

Part of Wicca's foundation appears to have been provided by the free masons. To some people all free masons, particularly those with higher degrees, are Illuminati. Of course, the original Bavarian Illuminati was founded on Beltane 1776 by Adam Weishaupt. I don't know if this organization still exists. Probably, it doesn't. But, similar ideas may have crept into other free masonic organizations, at least, that's what some researchers think. That seems possible. These free masonic based organizations (like The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, for example) share ideas and recreate themselves with new names.

Gerald Gardner was a free mason, although, there is some question about how far he climbed in any of these organizations. Apparently, his claims don't quite match up with the evidence. He may not have obtained his ideas from the Bavarian Illuminati, but they are definitely what researchers would call Illuminist.

Something about most of these researchers. Most of them have a Christian bent. Some of them are so Christian that they don't have the first clue how to interpret some of the occult info. they come across (and despite their assertions about their belief in the power of their god, they are terrified of anything they think is demonic - and some of this truly IS demonic in every sense of the word). They publish books, anyway and their Christian cohorts buy them. This is a big problem with a lot of the information I've run across on the subject.

What are the shapeshifters? I've spent about 25 years trying to understand that. I think the ones I see are demonic, as in the offspring of humans and something that might have been on this planet a long time ago.

The shifting is kind of a whole subject on its own because I believe it is possible for other beings to shift form, after all, the lore is all over the place (werewolves, vampires, witches, etc.). Zeena LaVey Schreck is into some kind of Tantric Yoga where this is their objective. Some things I've read about the power of hypnosis and the founder of the Temple of Set, Michael Aquino, make me think this is entirely possible. Besides, everything is just frequencies and waves, fundamentally. Our eyes and other sense are just perceiving and interpreting these wavelengths.

But, THEY are very nasty things. They are thieves, killers and violent sex fiends. I'm not scared of the demonic realm, except when the demons have a physical body, either their own or some one else's (like possession). The old lore says these things were once physical, but their bodies were physically destroyed. They are always working tome back to the physical realm.

If you are confronted with one physically and they try to attack you, you must defend yourself physically. But, I've seen them on other energetic levels, if you know what I mean. I can see them around and in people, obsessing and possessing them. And, sometimes I can just see that people are being controlled by them because they're standing in a big black shadowy hole. They have black holes for eyes. I can hear their thoughts, what goes through their minds, what they're planning to do next.

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OldWitchcraft 4 days ago

My own opinion is that Illuminism is not all a bad thing (although, there is very powerful knowledge in it, especially at higher levels, including how to control demonic/angelic forces) - it is Luciferianism and Luciferianism is about humanity, human rights, the divine qualities of man, humans as gods, etc. Christians don't like these ideas because they are opposite to what they believe about their god... But, their god is an old demon... a demon who demanded worship, brought floods, destroyed cities and hated women. Every time I research anything to do with it, I come back to Enlil of Sumer. Also, they changed the original Genesis story to suit themselves. Their creator god was a tyrant in that story, too, and it was the woman who liberated herself and the man from his evil clutches.

I do believe in a big government kabal of some kind and if you are going to hide what you're doing, then a free masonic style secret society is the place to do it.

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